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    Louis, <br>
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    I didn't get completely your message.. <br>
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    Is there a way or not in the current version of gale to get Q1P0
    and/or Q2P1 working?<br>
    Or do you recommend using Q1P0 with UW? <br>
    if so, it would be very usefull to provide users with example files
    with the source of gale.<br>
     <br>
    Laetitia  <br>
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    On 9/24/11 1:28 PM, Louis Moresi wrote:
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cite="mid:CACRTXu1Rpa=kG3OqLY574KWyqi9H7+J594w9yug+h-U3MzKJeA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">For your information cig-long readers, Walter, Louise
      and I had a conversation around this issue two weeks ago. 
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        <div>I don't think there are any supporters of Q1Q1 for this
          particular problem left any more. Underworld defaults to Q1P0
          but provides recovered deviatoric stress and pressure
          quantities which mitigate the checkerboard problem. This can
          be configured quickly and is at least well-understood and
          tested.</div>
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        <div>Q2P1 would be useful to have next. It is implemented in
          underworld (and therefore gale) but there are some
          shortcomings / bugs left to iron out with the current
          integration scheme for PIC and (my guess is that) there are
          some outstanding issues with multigrid and some of the
          processing plugins. I am not sure about the implementation of
          the stress / pressure recovery for these elements although
          they are likely to be less important.<br>
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          <div>Walter was very keen to get this particular element
            working in gale before he steps back from active
            development.</div>
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          <div>Louis</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 20:16,
              laetitia le pourhiet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Brian and the
                  others,<br>
                  <br>
                  There is not much you can do about that I gave up
                  trying to do such models with Gale.<br>
                  It is now established Q1Q1 elements are not suited for
                  this kind of problems.<br>
                  What you can do is  to<br>
                  1) Remove the free surface/sky to work with delta rho
                  instead of rho<br>
                  2) Increase the resolution.<br>
                   <br>
                  Basically you should only use these elements for
                  extended thin shit problems. <br>
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                  The old Q1P0 had other problems, but they could be
                  used to model drip/subduction problems.<br>
                   <br>
                  If CIG still wants to spend some time/money on Gale<br>
                  It would be usefull to have a switch between elements,
                  like in UW so that depending on the model set up we
                  can choose the best suited element.<br>
                  <br>
                  hope this was helpfull<br>
                  <br>
                  Laetitia
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                      On 9/24/11 12:44 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: </div>
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                      <div class="h5">Hi all,<br>
                        <br>
                        I'm working on a model of lithospheric drip and
                        despite having zero flux on the boundaries, I am
                        getting downward velocities with no compensating
                        upwelling, which would seem to violate the
                        divergence free condition. Has anybody else had
                        a similar problem and/or figured out a solution?
                        I've attached a copy of my input file if anyone
                        wants to look at it; everything is scaled as
                        follows: distance: km, mass: 10^15 kg, time:
                        m.y.<br>
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                        Thanks,<br>
                        Brian<br>
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