<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Bobby,<div><br></div><div>Are all of the solutions converging (both linear and nonlinear)? &nbsp;I would have to look more at the different solution settings to see which of the two you've shown is more reasonable.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Charles</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 9/03/2013, at 6:11 AM, <a href="mailto:BOK10@pitt.edu">BOK10@pitt.edu</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Thanks! I tried a mixture of those suggestions, and i was able to get it<br>to reduce its runtime by half.<br><br>I do have a question regarding the most suitable ksp/snes tolerances though:<br><br>I ran two simulations. The first had the following:<br><br>for the fault zero_tolerance = 1e-12<br>ksp_rtol/snes_rtol = 1e-20<br>ksp_atol = 1e-13<br>snes_atol = 1e-11<br><br>The second had this:<br><br>for the fault zero_tolerance = 1e-14<br>ksp_rtol/snes_rtol = 1e-20<br>ksp_atol = 1e-15<br>snes_atol = 1e-13<br><br>What I'm trying to do is look at the time it takes for certain portions of<br>my fault to rupture &gt;1m. Running both simulations, I got wildly different<br>results, and I'm not sure which to rely on at this point. Is there any<br>insight you might be able to give me regarding the best tolerances to<br>settle on?<br><br>Bobby<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hmm. &nbsp;It sounds to me as though you need to play with your parameters a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">bit. &nbsp;I'm assuming you're using a frictional fault, which can definitely<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">take a while to converge; however, you can do a few things to speed things<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">up:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1. &nbsp;Follow all of the suggestions Brad had from his previous e-mail.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2. &nbsp;Make sure you have the highest quality mesh you can get. &nbsp;Just one<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">poorly formed element, especially on the fault, can really slow things<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">down.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">3. &nbsp;Possibly try reducing your time step size. &nbsp;It's possible that your<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">load increment per timestep is too high for reasonable convergence.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When you have a chance, I would see if you can build PyLith from source on<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">your cluster. &nbsp;In addition to allowing parallel runs, this will let you<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">take advantage of any machine-specific tools (e.g., optimized math<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">libraries, etc.).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Let us know whether any of this helps.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Charles<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 7/03/2013, at 12:15 PM, <a href="mailto:BOK10@pitt.edu">BOK10@pitt.edu</a> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Charles,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm not running in parallel (I couldn't get the model to process in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">parallel on the cluster). Each time step takes ~80 minutes with loose<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">tolerances, and about 2 hours for tighter tolerances.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The mesh itself is about 6,000 cells (2D). The faults have a 2 km<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">discretization, and the boundaries have a 5 km discretization. Im using<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">elasticplanestrain.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bobby<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What sort of machine are you running on, and are you running in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">parallel?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm not sure what your problem size is, but 80 time steps shouldn't<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">take<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that long to run, unless it's a very nonlinear problem. &nbsp;How large is<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">your<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mesh, and what sort of rheology are you using?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Charles<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 7/03/2013, at 11:36 AM, <a href="mailto:BOK10@pitt.edu">BOK10@pitt.edu</a> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Charles,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It takes pretty long for a simulation to finish processing, and I was<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hoping to split the simulation up into parts so I can come back to it<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">later. It's not a necessity, but more a convenience issue.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I think I'll just continue on with running it overnight.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bobby<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Bobby,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm not quite sure what you have in mind. &nbsp;If you're running any sort<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">viscoelastic problem, you would need to save the entire state at the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">end<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of each run. &nbsp;I don't see what benefit there would be from doing<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">this,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">since you would still need to finish each run to get all the state<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">variables at the end of each chunk, and then feed them into the next<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">simulation as initial state variables.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If your problem is completely elastic, I suppose you could run them<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">way you're suggesting, and then use linear superposition to obtain<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">final result. &nbsp;What is your reason for wanting to break up the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">simulation?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Charles<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 7/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, <a href="mailto:BOK10@pitt.edu">BOK10@pitt.edu</a> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it possible to split a simulation into parts? I'm running my<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="c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