[CIG-SHORT] Fault opening error

Birendra jha bjha7333 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 6 08:18:59 PDT 2013


Hi Charles

The curved segment of the fault smoothly bends approx. 17 deg clockwise from the segment that is parallel to the y_pos boundary. Is that angle too much?
I sent all the files to run the case in my first email on 8/2/13. If you have 15 minutes, I'd really appreciate if you could run the case and visualize it in Paraview. I think it runs as long as there is no slip which can be achieved with a high friction coefficient.

Thanks and regards
Birendra

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On Tue, 8/6/13, Charles Williams <C.Williams at gns.cri.nz> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [CIG-SHORT] Fault opening error
 To: cig-short at geodynamics.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 5:08 AM
 
 Sorry about that,
 Birendra.  I didn't actually look at the test
 before sending it.  It seems to me this one may not be
 what you need.  The examples/2d/subduction folder may
 be more what you need.
 How curved is the fault in your
 problem?
 Cheers,Charles
 
 On 6/08/2013, at 11:09 AM, Birendra jha
 wrote:
 Thank you Charles. Two comments/questions:
 1. There is nothing about solver settings in the
 pylithapp.cfg, no petsc settings either.
 2. Density is specified as 2500.0*m/2.
 
 regards
 Birendra
 
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 On Tue, 8/6/13, Charles Williams <willic3 at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [CIG-SHORT] Fault opening error
  To: cig-short at geodynamics.org
  Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 2:53 AM
 
  Hi Birendra,
  It's possible the tests don't get
  distributed with the binaries.  I'm attaching a
  tarball with the directory Brad mentioned.
  Cheers,Charles
 
  On 6/08/2013, at 5:48 AM, Birendra jha
  wrote:
  Hi Brad
 
  I did not find the tests/2d/nonplanar folder in the pylith
  directory. Did you mean examples/2d/subduction?
 
  Also, can you please send me the pylithapp.cfg with
 modified
  tolerances?
 
  Thanks a lot
  Birendra
 
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  On Mon, 8/5/13, Birendra jha <bjha7333 at yahoo.com>
  wrote:
 
   Subject: Re: [CIG-SHORT] Fault opening error
   To: "Brad Aagaard" <baagaard at usgs.gov>
   Date: Monday, August 5, 2013, 8:16 PM
 
   Brad
 
   Is it possible for you to send me the pylithapp.cfg,
 if
   that's the one you modified?
 
   I changed my ksp_rtol and snes_rtol to 1e-20 and I
 am
  still
   getting the error.
 
   Thank you
   Birendra
 
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   On Mon, 8/5/13, Brad Aagaard <baagaard at usgs.gov>
   wrote:
 
    Subject: Re: [CIG-SHORT] Fault opening error
    To: "Birendra jha" <bjha7333 at yahoo.com>
    Cc: cig-short at geodynamics.org
    Date: Monday, August 5, 2013, 7:44 PM
 
    Birendra,
 
    I ran a few time steps with the tighter
 tolerances
  and
    didn't get an 
    error. I am out of the office for another week
 and
  don't
    have time to 
    run anything until I return.
 
    There is a curved fault dynamic simulation test
 in
    tests/2d/nonplanar.
 
    Regards,
    Brad
 
 
    On 8/5/13 7:11 AM, Birendra jha wrote:
  Hi Brad
 
  I did that. It did not
  solve the fault opening
    problem.
 
  Do you have some time
  to run this case? It should
   take
    1-2 minutes. The main problem is that when slip
 is
   non-zero
    on the curved fault surface, slip vector on one
 of
  these
    nodes is assigned some non zero value in the
 normal
    direction during numerical iteration. Since
 fault is
  under
    compression everywhere, it gives an error from
    FaultCohesiveDyn::integrateResidual. Is it
 possible
  that
    after the iterations have converged, there is
 no
  slip
    component in the normal direction? If so, then
 this
  error
    check in inetgrateResidual is probably too
 strict?
 
  Do you have a simple
  case where spontaneous fault
   slip
    is modeled on a curved fault surface?
 
  Thanks and best
  regards
  Birendra
 
 
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  On Sun, 8/4/13, Brad
  Aagaard <baagaard at usgs.gov>
    wrote:
 
     Subject: Re: [CIG-SHORT] Fault
  opening
    error
     To: cig-short at geodynamics.org
     Date:
  Sunday, August 4, 2013, 8:23 PM
 
     Birendra,
 
     Your
  solver tolerances need
    adjustment. The FaultCohesiveDyn
     object in a
     quasi-static simulation
  requires use
    of absolute tolerances
     in order to
     properly detect stick/slip
  with the
    iterative solver (see
     the friction
     session in the CDM2013
  tutorial for
    details). You should
     lower the
     ksp_rtol and snes_rtol
  tolerances to
    1.0e-20 to force use of
     the
     absolute tolerances.
 
     Brad
 
     On
  8/2/13 2:35 PM, Birendra jha
    wrote:
     > Hi everyone,
     >
     >
  I am trying to run a model with a
    fault
     (FaultCohesiveDyn)
  in it. The fault
    surface is not planar
     but is curved. I
  am getting fault
    opening error at some
     node, which stops
  the simulation. Why
    does this happen? What
     should I do to
  avoid getting this
    error?
     >
     >
  Please see the attached files
    which should run.
     >
     >
  Here is what I have tried so
    far:
     > 1. different
  fault dips
     >
  2. different fault traces (plane
    to curved)
     > 3. different
  fault friction
    coefficients
     >
     >
  My objective is to get some
    reverse slip on this curved
     fault surface. The
  slip does not have
    to be on the curved
     part, it can be on
  the part that
    strikes parallel to the
     y_pos boundary.
     >
     >
  Thank you very much for any
    help.
     >
     >
  Birendra
     >
     >
     >
     >
 
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