[CIG-SHORT] Problem with fault intersection in 3D simulations

Charles Williams willic3 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 13 17:12:31 PST 2018


Hi Josimar,

I’m working through things now.  One question I have is why do you just mesh a subset of the surfaces before smoothing them and then creating the volume mesh?

Cheers,
Charles


> On 14/02/2018, at 1:23 PM, Josimar Alves da Silva <jsilva.mit at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> Yes I do have the files. I sent them to your e-mail. 
> 
> Let me know if you need any further details about the model.
> 
> thank you in advance,
> Josimar
> 
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Charles Williams <willic3 at gmail.com <mailto:willic3 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear Josimar,
> 
> Do you have the journal files you used to create the mesh?  That might allow us to see if any of the nodesets are set up incorrectly.
> 
> Cheers,
> Charles
> 
> p.s.  Depending on the type of problem you’re trying to solve, having the external boundaries so close to the faults is likely to cause problems, since your boundary conditions will be interfering with your solution.
> 
> 
>> On 14/02/2018, at 10:37 AM, Josimar Alves da Silva <jsilva.mit at gmail.com <mailto:jsilva.mit at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Charles,
>> 
>> Thank you for your suggestions. Answering your questions:
>> 
>> 1) Yes there is another layer on top of the faults (the overburden). See attached figure for further details. The faults terminate inside the domain before reaching the surface.
>> 2) There is no more mesh extending horizontally. The vertical edges are not included because they belong to the boundary (please correct me if it should be otherwise)
>> 
>> let me know if you have any further suggestions. 
>> 
>> thank you,
>> Josimar
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Charles Williams <willic3 at gmail.com <mailto:willic3 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Dear Josimar,
>> 
>> Is there another layer on top of the mesh shown in your second figure?  Otherwise, it looks to me as though these faults do intersect the upper surface.  Also, is there more mesh extending horizontally from the block you’ve shown? If so, the vertical fault edges should also be marked as fault_edges.  If not, I would say your boundaries are too close to your sources of deformation (although this wouldn’t be causing your topology problem).  It might be helpful if you could send us the journal files you used to create your mesh.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14/02/2018, at 6:12 AM, Josimar Alves da Silva <jsilva.mit at gmail.com <mailto:jsilva.mit at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brad, Charles and Matt
>>> 
>>> I am having trouble in running a 3D PyLith simulation with 2 intersecting faults and I am wondering if you can help me. The problem occurs when I run the simulation with both faults on the domain. Note that I have already run the simulation with each fault independently and found no problems.
>>> 
>>> The error message says the following (see also attached the full log containing the  error message ):
>>> 
>>> RuntimeError: Error occurred while adjusting topology to create cohesive cells for fault 'Thrust_fault'.
>>> Error in topology of mesh associated with symmetry of adjacency information.
>>> 
>>> See attached also figures for information regarding how I am defining the fault buried edges, specially regarding the intersection part. Note that neither  fault goes all the up to the surface and they terminated inside the domain.
>>> 
>>> I know this problem was often discussed to be related to the mesh element quality. An histogram of the mesh quality for all elements on my domain show that the mesh quality is as required for PyLith (< 3 ). 
>>> 
>>> If it helps, I am attaching also the configuration file (.cfg) containing the information regarding my simulation set up. Note  the that I am constrained to use pylith version 2.1.3, however using version 2.2  did not give a different error message.
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if you have any suggestions on how to solve this problem. 
>>> 
>>> thank you
>>> Josimar
>>> 
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